“What’s the secret to keeping people coming back?”
“For all the operators in the audience, the secret is to find the best manager who can build the best team, absolutely understands the brand, and connects authentically to what we do. It’s just so important.
You cannot underestimate the importance of the managers and the teams. How important it is to have the best team with continuous passion to grow.
We have the ethos at GAIL’s, we’re not seeking perfection: as good as we can be today, and tomorrow when we know more we will be better.”

The discussion was titled “GAIL’s growth: Opportunities and challenges ahead”
The next topic focused on how GAIL is managing to balance its significant growth while maintaining sustainability.
“We see it as an opportunity, not a challenge.
Every single time we open another bakery, we can buy better equipment, more sustainable ingredients, and get to know the small, local producers.
It’s a little more difficult to scale the sustainable ingredients. We look for partners that are absolutely able to scale and are passionate about the bigger impact.
We’re passionate about doing the right thing. We debate how far we can push the dial to make a better choice rather than an easier or cheaper one. We don’t start from the cost of ingredients; we start from, ‘Is it the best ingredient? Is it going to help good things go further? Are we going to help the cause?’
“Have you had to adapt the brand going outside of London?”
“When we were going to Manchester and we opened our first site there, we had a great debate about changing the pricing, model, and range.
But we decided to go with GAIL’s as it is anywhere else. We kept to our truest and purest and it’s been a great success. Since then we’ve opened another four bakeries and are looking to open another two.
It shows that if you really stick to your values, stick to your core and stand for what you mean to do, it works,
Everyone that tries to scale definitely has to have some ethos and mission they own, sticking to the mission is really important.
We’re looking now at Birmingham and opening later this year. I went to drive around, to understand the neighbourhoods. What are people looking for? Who are they?
It’s a question of ‘are we going to add to this neighbourhood or not?’ We always want to make things better. It takes a lot of time to think about it, But the space is definitely there for GAIL’s.”
Pogroszewska then discussed future models that GAIL is exploring while commending her teams for keeping the neighbourhood ethos alive.
“We’re opening three big station bakeries in London, which will be very very exciting and push us a little bit further.
But GAIL’s will forever be a neighbourhood business, because of the connection we create and how we connect with everyone around us.
Our teams are so amazing. We have an internal channel called GAIL’s Together and they’re always posting amazing things they do. It warms my heart every day when they tell the GAIL’s world the amazing things they’ve done to help their neighbourhoods. It’s not a strategy, the teams are just doing it because they enjoy being part of the community. That ethos part of it is so important to us.”
The discussion ended with Pogroszewska highlighting the benefits of healthy competition and the importance of loyal, early adopters.
“It will be 20 years since we opened the first shop in Hampstead next year.
Every single competitor, every brand has since opened in Hampstead, and it’s beautiful to see. It brings so much richness to the community and brings more people to Hampstead, so more people can enjoy themselves. I think it’s fantastic, there’s enough for everyone to share.
We’ll be so grateful to our Hampstead customers for sticking with us for 20 years. They’re our biggest champions and biggest challengers. Those first people that you know will tell you when something needs to change or move, because they love us so much. They will always give us the best feedback on what we do.”